After some time, Denise and I had a very convenient and exciting system worked out.
She would come around to my place for coffee and a catch up -- much like our initial date had been all that time previously -- and at some point, Denise would excuse herself politely and I would simply end up following her into the bathroom to watch her pull her big white underpants down around her knees and go to the toilet in front of me.
Denise had by now learned to always invite me down to watch more closely -- to which I would invariably respond in the affirmative.
With her knickers lowered, I would happily kneel down between her suitably parted thighs and watch her do a wee into the toilet -- I relished watching (and hearing) the hissing flow of yellow urine depart her body through her urethra -- at such close range, I could see in graphic detail the golden jet stream gush into the toilet below and soak many of Denise's surrounding ginger pubic hairs before showering the white toilet bowl underneath with her strongly smelling nectar.
This activity was often accompanied by me accessing the internal crotch panel of Denise's white cotton underpants. Rarely was Denise's crotch pad squeaky clean -- it was almost always discoloured with varying amounts of discharge staining.
Watching Denise sit on the toilet in front of me was an incredibly erotic and exciting activity which served to turn both of us on incredibly.
For me, to actually be kneeling between Denise's legs as she went to the toilet directly in front of my face offered me a raw and graphic view of the workings of a woman's toileting -- the contrasting colours and textures were amazing to witness, from the startling bright pinks of her vulva, which included her delicate pink vaginal lips and the vaginal opening itself to all the fine detail of her major and minor labia, her clitoris, her wrinkled hood and the gaping and slightly swollen opening of her urethra.
All of her pink, feminine flesh was surrounded by a delicate but healthy triangle of fine ginger pubic hair and the greater frame within which this all lay was the contrasting whites of the toilet seat and her well-sized cotton underpants which looked large and erotic as they stretched over her knees as she sat on the toilet to do her business.
The bright, golden jet stream of her urine provided the ultimate palette of erotic colouring during her toileting moments, emerging from the dimpled opening which sat deep within the bright pink flaps and deeper pinks of her vaginal opening and just below the her mildly wrinkled clitoral hood and smooth, glistened nut of her engorged clitoris.
For Denise, it seemed she became increasingly turned on by having me both examine and witness her private toileting activity at close range -- something that we both knew was an essential and natural activity but served equally well as a very private and erotic secret to be shared by Denise as a very intimate gift to be shared.
She was apparently warming to the very dirtiness of it -- going to the toilet is not necessary a clean thing to do, but Denise was relishing the privateness of her womanhood and the raw exposure and directness it involved.
Denise knew that I could not only view everything in between her legs, but also see very clearly inside her underpants -- which contained Denise's most feminine secrets -- secrets that were directly discharged from deep inside her body and revealed themselves on the inside of her womanly-wide crotch panel.
By pulling down her underpants and sitting on the toilet in front of me, she was giving a very fundamental part of herself without fear, shame or embarrassment, something that was clearly turning her on immensely and me also, in turn.
The discolouring of Denise white cotton crotch panel was always incredibly diverse and SO exciting -- I quickly learned that no two crotch panels of Denise's were EVER the same and this in itself was unbelievably thrilling to me.
Knowing it excited me so, also excited Denise and she became very capable and relaxed at being able to show me the inside of her underpants, no matter what sort of condition they were in.
With us both equally confident in dealing with what are normally very private and secret feminine gestures in the bathroom, we now regularly found ourselves "compromised" in this manner. We had crossed many lines so far and we felt between us that we could now comfortably go wherever our desires would lead us and this was incredibly exciting to both of us.
We would often "chatter" in a very open and sexual manner whilst all this was taking place as a means of turning ourselves on with words, innuendo and anything else that might turn us on. Frequently, the fantasies of days gone by would come into play as I would indulge my thoughts about Denise when I was much younger and having her visit our house as a mature family friend.
"You know I always imagined you wearing lovely big white cotton undies under your nurse's uniform that you used to wear when you came our place?" I admitted.
"I remember you using the toilet at our place one day," I continued, "And I imagined you pulling up your white nurse's dress before sliding down your big white undies and then sitting on our toilet. I couldn't stop thinking about what you would have done sitting on our toilet but I frequently masturbated after that day, thinking about your big, bare bottom on our toilet seat and what would have taken place once you took your underpants off."
"So... what did you imagine me doing on the toilet that day?" she asked seductively.
"Mmmmmmm...," I thought for a moment, "I imagined you sitting on out toilet -- the same toilet that I sat on all the time -- and imagined your big, bare bum with all your private openings exposed over our toilet bowl with your big white undies down around your knees, much like you are right now!"
"What did you imagine my undies look like in those days?" she probed.
"Big and white and cotton, maybe even with tiny little flowers printed all over them." I offered.
"Mmmmmmm....maybe!" Denise added. "But what about on the inside?"
"Ohhhh Denise, I'm just thinking of you on the toilet that day with your big knickers down around your knees." I started the flow of consciousness.
"And??" Denise beckoned me to let it out.