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"I love Japan, and so many things about Japanese culture, but the lack of furniture drives me nuts," Zerzinski said, as he sat down on the couch.
"Why don't they all get back problems from sitting on the floor all the time?" he continued. "I don't know how that works."
He had a warmth about him that I hadn't expected. I had never met him til now. But the way he was generally depicted back when he was in the news cycle was as a difficult, taciturn kind of guy with all sorts of questionable motives.
The vibe he gave off to me, though, was that of an upbeat, relaxed guy. And it would seem that he has plenty to be upbeat about.
He proceeded to act the way one would expect a convivial host to act, asking me how my trip to the mountain was. Of course he knew there's no direct way to get there without a private jet or something. So the journey is always a bit of an adventure.
"Shall we get started?" I asked, after what seemed like an appropriate amount of small-talk.
He breathed deeply. More like a sigh.
"Sure."
"Giving interviews isn't your favorite thing to do?"
I hoped he knew I was referring to the sigh with that question.
"You haven't given an interview in ten years?"
He paused before answering.
"Before I started teaching high school, I was playing a lot of music. I did a lot of seat-of-the-pants touring. With bands that were always falling apart after a few months and such.
"But anyway," he went on, "what can happen after an interview is a lot like what happens after you play a bad note. But with amplification and an audience. Well, good
or
bad note. It's amplified. The effect is much bigger than it would be if it stayed in your bedroom."
"As a musician and a journalist myself, I completely understand your point."
But I was still waiting for his answer, and he knew that. He sighed again.
"They say when you start meditating, don't mention it to anyone for the first five or ten years."
He paused before continuing. "I was a pretty level-headed, self-confident guy before the diagnosis, I like to think. But I think most people would have a challenging time with what happened to me, and, well, I did, too. I didn't see the point in talking about these things with journalists anymore, so I stopped."
I looked at the MP3 recorder to make sure it was working properly, and opened my notebook to where I had been outlining interview topics to cover.
"Can you say in your own words, where are we? What is this place here on this mountain in rural Japan?"
Zerzinski paused again. He was clearly a bit hesitant, if not tense, since the interview part began. I imagined eventually he'd loosen up. At least I hoped so.
The expression on his face reminded me of the expressions on the faces of many politicians I'd interviewed over the years, who are always so careful about how they phrase things. Lest someone out there read into something a meaning or attitude they didn't want to communicate.
"Well, one thing this place is," he said, "is a pretty impressive example of the adaptability of Japanese culture."
"Did you teach social studies when you taught high school?"
There was something distinctly teacher-ish in his delivery, and I had to ask.
"Yes, for many years."
He smiled, and looked a bit sheepish.
"Sorry, please continue. How does this place exhibit this adaptability?"
"Well, they've taken a modern problem and a modern solution, but found a way to interface between these two things in what is in many ways a very traditionally-oriented process.
"They formed a temple, involving different kinds of training, service, and rituals. They've taken what could potentially be a very uncomfortable or inappropriate, taboo kind of thing, and made it honorable and even exciting."
"Exciting for you?" I asked.
"Undeniably, it is exciting for me. And I've never said otherwise."
He was sounding somewhat defensive, but I went on with my line of questioning.
"All the women of the world wanting to have sex with you is basically a positive?"
"Not all," he corrected. "But a hell of a lot. Yes, there's quite a silver lining. But it comes with challenges."
"What sorts of challenges?"
He breathed deeply before answering, and paused to take a sip of the sparkling water that was making a faint bubbly noise. I imagined the sound of the bubbles I'd hear later when listening to the recording, as I also took a sip from my glass.
"I guess mostly the same kinds of challenges involved with winning a really big lottery jackpot. Or having a massive, runaway hit in the Billboard charts."
He paused thoughtfully.
"Well, more like winning the lottery," he continued. "Because the fact that this happened to me is completely coincidental, it has nothing to do with talent. Which is another one of the challenges involved."
He paused again, clearly thinking about how to explain his thought better. I waited silently, patiently. Often the best interviewing technique is to say nothing, while looking attentive and interested. Let the silences happen.
"All kinds of moral quandaries," he finally went on. "I'm just glad this didn't happen to me when I was any younger."
"I don't know how many of the Billboard hits have to do with talent," I interjected. Then I asked my next question.
"Some people say this place is a cult. What do you say to that?"
He chuckled a little. "I love that phrase, 'some people say,' that's a good one.
"I don't know what qualifies for cult status. I'd say the Catholic Church is much more of a cult than this place. If this is a cult, then I don't know who the leader of it is. Cults usually have charismatic gurus, don't they?"
"You're not the leader?" I asked.
"No," he answered decisively. "They formed this Purification Temple, and later also the Choto Temple, basically as a direct consequence of my diagnosis.
"But if someone else had the same kind of unusual chromosomes as me, they would have put them at the center of the thing. I just ultimately decided it was too good an opportunity to pass up, for a lot of reasons."
I was somewhat expecting to meet an emotionally distant, self-important narcissist. But Zerzinski still kept striking me as an intelligent guy who had given a lot of thought to a lot of stuff that most people never have to think about.
"OK, let's backtrack. Let's start at the beginning," I announced. It's often a good place to start, I find.
"To when I was diagnosed?" he asked.
"That's the beginning for you, isn't it?"
"Well, I certainly have tended to see my life in terms of Before the Diagnosis and After the Diagnosis, that's for sure."
"Understandably enough," I said. "But I was thinking of BD."
Zerzinski nodded.
"I'd like to get a picture of what your life was like in the decades before the CDC anointed you the sexiest man in the world."
He smiled, or grimaced, I couldn't tell which.
"What were you into as a kid? What were your early relationships like? Let's dwell on that for a while."
"I was a geeky kid. Spent a lot of time alone in the woods. Or home reading comic books. Or spending all day and night on a given weekend obsessively playing Dungeons & Dragons with my few, geeky friends." He paused. "They were all guys," he added.
"There were no girlfriends in the picture?" I asked.
"The whole concept was just alien to me, though something I desperately wanted. In retrospect, desperately wanting something you don't understand while at the same time totally ignoring it and obsessing over role-playing games is overall not a good sexual strategy."
"You found better sexual strategies eventually?"
"Yes. Learning to talk to girls like they're fellow human beings helped. And playing the guitar. Well, actually the combination of singing while playing the guitar, really. The singer in the band always gets laid the most."
"I'd have to concur with that observation," I said.
Next question. "Can you tell me something about your earliest sexual experiences?"
This clearly wasn't the first time he'd encountered that one. His answer sounded rehearsed.
"They could generally be characterized by their brevity, and by premature ejaculation."
"Any lasting relationships?"
"Not until I was 19. I guess I kind of got the hang of it after that. The lasting relationship thing. They didn't last long for the most part until I was a bit older.
"I was a pretty arrogant, know-it-all kind of hippie kid. But I guess there were attractive enough aspects to me, since there was only a few months during my twenties when I wasn't hooked up with someone."
He paused. "Though at the time it seemed like an exceedingly long few months, I remember well. I was despondent."
"I wonder if you could talk about the contrast between your general relationship with sex BD versus AD? I think this is among the things that really interest readers. And editors."