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The Itchen Debate

The Itchen Debate

by Apilgrimsquare
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This is my entry for the 2025 April Fools Contest, where stories are meant to incorporate tricks, deceit, etc. Please leave a rating and a comment, if you're so inclined! All characters are 18+.

Content warnings:

the story involves a brother and sister discussing (in a light-hearted fashion!) gender-related topics, with references to misogyny, homophobia and rape (in the context of discussing victim-blaming). There is no rape or references to actual rapes in the story, and the homophobia is limited to jokes about all-female colleges, but I include the warning here nevertheless in case joking/debating about such topics isn't your cup of tea.

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College had really done a number on my twin sister, Eva. Growing up, she had always been the quiet type, whereas I was always more boisterous and outgoing. Sure, sometimes she would tag along with me and my friends, bringing up the rear on bike rides around the neighborhood, but by the time we got to high school, that pretty much stopped. My friends and I traded neighborhood bike rides and roller hockey games for parties and girls. Eva mostly just read. She never even really had a boyfriend, or even had a guy over. I still remember when dad told her it was okay if she was a lesbian, and she cried and cried insisting that she wasn't, and it was none of their business who she loved, anyway.

We stayed close, in our way, even as our social circles diverged. We were twins, at the end of the day. We had a unique connection that transcended social groups and high school politics. Even if I was spending more time with my friends those last years of high school, I still saw her at home, every day. We were still going through a lot of the same things, at the same time. It helped to have an ally around the house, at least. Someone to keep mom and dad off each other's backs every now and then. Someone to cover for you. A partner in crime.

But that first weekend of winter break, our first since she went off to Bryn Mawr and I went off to Penn State, showed me that Eva had changed. She was pushier, more argumentative, eager to show off all the feminist brain slop they'd been feeding her at her woke college. There was none of that on the curriculum at Penn State. At least not in any of my classes. Her Instagram account had changed tone within her first few weeks of the semester. Where book quotes and sunsets had previously dominated, now there were feminist quotes, pictures of protests. Politics.

Yeah, she had changed, alright.

I was mixing myself a bowl of cereal our first Saturday back from school. Mom and dad were due back from their cruise that evening, and so the house was empty but for Eva and me. We had both gotten in late the previous evening, said our hellos, and promptly passed out, after. I was enjoying the relative peace and quiet of the morning until I heard the toilet flush upstairs. Eva was awake, it seemed. I girded myself, preparing for the inevitable lecture about how the patriarchy was ruining the world, or how electing a female president would lead to a century of world peace, or how, even better yet, we should just abolish the United States government and return the land to the descendants of the indigenous people from whom it was stolen, blah blah blah. It was too bad I left my headphones upstairs.

Eva bounded down the steps and into the kitchen, wearing a baby blue "The Future is Female" t-shirt that ran a few inches down her thighs, and a pair of thick, fuzzy rainbow-striped socks that bunched up unevenly on her calves. It was the kind of outfit I might like if it were on a more available girl, emphasizing her long legs and suggesting nakedness underneath. Her shoulder-length dirty blonde hair was tousled and unbrushed and she was still blinking the sleep from her blue eyes. We had the same ski-jump nose and high cheekbones, that got us pinned as twins wherever we went. She wasn't wearing any makeup, but thanks to the excellent genes we shared, she still looked pretty, I guess, even if all the new piercings in her ears made her look like kind of a freak. I guessed she didn't sleep with those in, though, because the silver rings I saw lining the top of her left ear last night were nowhere in sight, and her earlobes were bare, too.

"Take a picture, dude," she said. "It'll last longer."

"You wish."

"Yeah, I

do

wish you would stop leering at me like I were a piece of meat hanging in the deli."

You'll have to take my word for it, but I wasn't

leering

at her. A guy can't help it if a sexy pair of legs walks into the room and he notices them. It doesn't matter whom they're attached to - our brains are conditioned to look. We can't help it.

"I wasn't even looking at you."

"It's okay," she said. "I know you can't help it. Men are hardwired to be misogynistic perverts, and you just can't help but stare at any woman who so much as dares to physically exist in your general proximity."

"That's bullshit."

It wasn't totally bullshit. But she wasn't getting off

that

easy.

"Not really," she said, tipping the cereal box into her bowl. "We're learning all about the male gaze in my Gender Studies seminar. How pervasive it is in society, our media... how representations of women have been carefully controlled by men to dehumanize us and turn us into consumable goods for leering male eyes. It's everywhere."

"Oh good," I said. "That'll prepare you well for the job hunt. Interviewers always ask about that kind of thing."

She opened the refrigerator door and leaned forward, more than she had to, if you ask me, to look for the milk. Her shirt crept up her smooth, silky thighs, and I couldn't help but duck down a little, wondering what color underwear she had on. If she bent any lower, I'd probably find out.

"You make jokes because your fragile, male ego can't handle the truth. That you're less a fully actualized human being than you are a porn-addicted automaton capable only of processing and understanding female bodies as sex-things to get off to."

"What's with all the 'bodies' talk?" I asked. "Are you a full person or just a body? Do you want to be dehumanized or not? Make up your mind."

"We use the term 'bodies' in critical theory to emphasize how gender is, essentially, performance, with others' understanding of one's personhood rooted in their physical appearance. To the lecherous male, we

are

just bodies, reduced to our essential, physical characteristics. Hips, lips, tits and ass, that's the currency against which we're valued in the male-controlled public sphere. Speaking in such terms helps root the discussion in these phenomena."

"Oh, come on!" I emphasized my displeasure and used it as an excuse to drop my head even lower, low enough to see a flash of a pink, cotton triangle hiding beneath her shirt's hem. "You really believe that crap?"

She pulled the milk from the fridge and I snapped back up to my normal posture before she could clock me. The last thing I needed when denying my essentializing her based on her physical characteristics was for her to catch me trying to get a peek at her underwear.

"It's not a question of belief," she said. "It's a question of awareness."

"You mean

wokeness

."

"The fact is," she continued, not taking my bait. "Men control the media, and men have used sexist representations of women for generations in order to reinforce the stereotypical gender binary and the ideal feminine form... as defined by men, of course. To cultivate widespread acceptance of women as nothing more than lust objects for the provision of pleasure to their male overlords. Look at advertising, in particular the recent push to feature atypical representations of beauty, including plus-sized women, older women,

transgender

women. The mere existence of these campaigns caused a fucking

firestorm

, with companies from Dove to fucking

Budweiser

incurring the wrath of angry straight men."

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"Or look at video games," she continued. "The computer-generated female characters aren't

sexy

enough for the porn-addicted gooners online, and they claim it's a conspiracy to deprive them of what's rightfully theirs: namely, the right to pornographic content and idealized representations of female bodies in all of the media they consume. This is the world men have cultivated."

Eva put the milk on the counter and stretched her arms, eyes closed, grabbing her elbow over her head and pulling, straightening her back and lifting her shoulders until the t-shirt cleared her panties. They were the kind they called hipsters or boy shorts, I could never really keep track, and were a pale, pastel pink that contrasted nicely with the blue of her shirt. It was a great look on her.

"Yeah, men have cultivated all that. Says the girl walking around in her underwear. Looks like you still shave your legs, by the way. Has Bryn Mawr just not gotten to that part of the deprogramming, yet?"

Eva opened her eyes and stared at me dispassionately.

"I'm in my own home," she said, holding her hands up and casting her gaze around the ceiling. "I'm wearing my pajamas. I literally rolled out of bed, came downstairs to eat some breakfast, and even so, you can't help but interpret my actions as 'walking around in my underwear,' as if that's the most significant context in which I exist. I'm not 'woman making breakfast,' let alone '

sister

making breakfast,' to you. No. I'm 'girl walking around in her underwear.' You're just proving my point. Your brain's been fried by porn."

"Give me a break."

"And I shave my legs because it's comfortable and feels better. It has nothing to do with men."

I chewed a spoonful of cereal and waved my spoon by my ear. Cuckoo. Cuckoo.

"Mm-hmm. Man, this patriarchal male gaze stuff must be real powerful if even its critics can't help but take every opportunity to conform to male fantasies."

"How am I conforming to male fantasies?!"

"Cute girl marches in the room wearing a cute pair of panties, her legs smooth and shaven and on full display despite it being the middle of December... a guy can't help but wonder!"

"Ugh, you're disgusting. You probably think girls who get raped deserve it if they're 'dressed like sluts,' too."

I slammed my spoon into the bowl. Milk splashed on the granite tabletop.

"Oh, come on! I do not. You know me better than that."

Eva dropped her arms and poured the milk into her bowl. She stood up straight, and though I couldn't see her underwear any more, I could clearly see the soft curves of her ass cheeks beginning to form at the top of her thighs, her parted legs hinting at the treasures above. It must have been a while since she'd gotten any male attention, I figured. She must have been practically starving for it.

"But you think women are responsible for the effect they have on men, don't you? Like, women bear some responsibility for men's reactions?"

She turned around, leaning back against the counter and holding the cereal bowl by her chest. The lines in her t-shirt broke around her breasts, and if it hadn't already been clear she didn't wear a bra, it was clear, now. The top of her shirt sloped and sagged away from her shoulders, extending a few inches outward before dropping like a cliff.

"I mean, if a girl dresses sexy, you can't blame a guy for noticing. That doesn't mean I think she deserves to get raped, you psycho."

Eva chewed a spoonful of cereal, wiping a dribble of milk from her lower lip with the top of her hand. She nodded as she chewed, looking off to the distance.

"But what does 'dressing sexy' even mean?" She said after swallowing, dipping the spoon back into the milky bowl and idly swirling. "Who decides? The woman picking the outfit, or the man seeing it? For instance, I'm wearing a boring old t-shirt and socks, but you've been staring at me like a starving wolf since I walked in."

She lifted a foot against the cupboard beneath her counter, running her rainbow sock up and down the door as she took another bite of cereal.

"I'd hardly call this outfit

sexy

," she said, speaking with her mouth full, milk coating her lips, "but here you are, leering at me. So who gets to decide? Because it seems like you already have."

"Seems like

you've

decided for

me

!" I said, pointing my finger. "I haven't said a damn thing about your outfit, besides your cute pink panties being cute. What should I say instead? 'Oh, your pastel pink panties evoke fond memories of Easter, and the attendant Resurrection? Halleluia, Christ is risen.' Give me a break! I'm just stating facts. You're making assumptions because you

want

to see me as a sexist pervert. Maybe you

need

to see me that way, because it conforms to

your

worldview. You're the only one who's actually made any decisions, here. You decided to wear your underwear down here, you decided to prance around and flaunt it, you decided I was a pervert. Meanwhile, you've consistently denied

me

any agency in this exchange, preferring to instead view me as a prop to your preconceived schema regarding what you call the male gaze."

Eva wasn't the

only

one who'd been in philosophy seminars last semester.

She put the cereal bowl down on the counter and leaned back against it, holding her elbows down and pinning her shoulders back, letting the soft globes of her tits press up against the fabric of her shirt, giving the clear impression of two hard nipples lurking just beneath the surface.

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"You don't think a woman knows when she's being ogled?"

"You're interpreting looking as ogling," I said. "Of course I'm

looking

at you - you're right in front of me! We're talking! Where should I look, the ceiling? Shall I simply intuit when a woman might be showing skin and, without even ever looking at her to confirm it, just reflexively cast my eyes to the floor in shame?"

As I finished, she grabbed the front of her shirt and yanked it up, giving me another clear view of her pale, pink panties. She tilted her head as my eyes inevitably snapped down and locked on like a missile defense system, frantically searching the fabric for a hint of her slit.

What can I say? It was instinct. Wiring. Just like she said.

"You have choices in where to look, though. Don't you?"

I rolled my eyes.

"Wow. A girl flashes me her panties and I have the nerve to look. Call the freakin' cops."

Eva hopped down to the floor and turned around, leaning over the counter again, further, this time, and letting the shirt ride up enough to uncover her panties again. She arched her back, pressing her feet to the floor and sticking her ass out. It looked bigger than I remembered, as if instead of the fabled "Freshman 15," she had simply added some extra padding on her glutes. Her underwear stretched as she flexed, losing enough opacity that I could just about make out the faint outlines of her ass crack before she returned to a more relaxed position. The pink fabric bunched up in the middle, clinging to her cheeks where they disappeared into her crack and the shadows of her crotch below.

"And now you're looking at my ass. I don't even have to look to know."

"Well, I'm like a magpie, I guess. I see a shiny object and I just can't help myself."

"So you agree? You're a mindless animal who can't control himself."

"You're the one

intentionally

showing me your ass!"

"I'm not

showing

you anything. I'm just

existing

here in three-dimensional space, here in my own home, stretching my legs a little.

You're

the one interpreting it as an invitation to be a lecher, to consume my body as if your eyes could just drink it all up."

Eva looked good enough to drink up, there was no doubt about that. Especially from behind, with her dumb, smirking face obscured. She had me there.

"You've got to be kidding me! This is so typical of women. You want to have it both ways. You want to tease men with your bodies and your sexy little outfits, and then still be able to criticize those men when you get the attention you're obviously after."

"Tease?!" She turned around, hands on the bottom of her shirt, pulling down and stretching her shirt against her tits. "How am I teasing you?"

She swayed her hips ever so slightly from side to side. Her face remained placid, like it belonged to a totally different body than the one very clearly in the process of teasing me.

"Can you really not even see a woman in her underwear without assuming she's trying to provoke a sexual response? I'm your sister, for God's sake. And still, I'm just a sexual object, whose failure to immediately provide the gratification you crave is seen as teasing?"

I lifted my cereal bowl to my mouth and drank. My mouth had been feeling a little dry, and my water cup was empty. I wiped the milk from my lips, careful to maintain eye contact with Eva and not steal another glance at her poking nipples.

"Did you know that humans are the only animals to drink the milk of another species. Isn't that interesting?"

"What's so interesting about that?" I asked. "What did they teach you in Perverted Male Breast Milk Fetishism 101?"

"Well, half of our species is capable of producing milk. And we don't drink it. Do you know why?"

"Because it's for babies."

"Because men restrict the sale of women's breast milk."

"Oh, please. It's unsanitary!"

"Imagine the economic opportunities that might be available to women if they were able to sell their milk. Men, of course, want to deny that."

I searched Eva's face for clues as to whether or not she was, in the end, just fucking with me. It would be just like her to pretend to hold some absurd position, just to get a rise out of me. She used to do it in high school, claiming sports were really just a result of sublimated homoerotic desires expressing themselves through organized, male-on-male contact whenever mom or dad asked me how football practice went. She'd been teasing me with her body all morning, that much was clear, and I took the opportunity to glance at her legs again. Had she been teasing me with her arguments, too? Was it all just a big tease?

"Now you're just being ridiculous," I said. Eva's nipples were about to burst through her shirt, and it was a constant struggle to pretend not to notice. "Besides, I'm surprised you'd advocate for legalizing something that would just open up more avenues of potential abuse. You're imagining some idealized hippie commune where women squeeze their tits into homemade terra cotta jugs, or whatever, but the reality would be industrial milk farms, where underprivileged women were forced to lactate for factory farming conglomerates and Big Dairy. Is that the world you feminists want? Immigrant and minority women kept all caged up, with pumps attached to their titties and hormones pumped into their veins?"

Eva let go of her shirt and shrugged.

"It could be regulated. If women were in charge, it wouldn't even be a question. We would be in control of our breasts and our produce, thank you very much."

"Can we stop talking about breasts, now?"

"Why. Are you getting flustered?"

"Again, you're putting words in my mouth."

"You said I was teasing you before."

"I was speaking in the abstract! I said women want to be able to tease men and then act all mad about it, which is exactly what you're doing."

"Well, why shouldn't we be able to tease men?"

Eva lifted her shirt again, higher now, revealing not only her cute pink panties, but parts of her flat stomach, too, alternating between the right and left side, gently stroking her panties' white waistband with her fingertips and switching hands. It was impossible not to look, as her fingers fluttered on the waistband, her hipbones protruding, her navel peeking out from behind her shirt.

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