After the time at the motel - all right, the
two times
- with Ally's "friend," Hannah, it gave me some things to think about. Ally and I have never had a conversation about exclusivity, or fidelity, or whatever you want to call it. I mean, Ally said that I'm her husband, and that she is my wife, and those words have some implications about ... about us with regard to other people.
Janet and I were together ... what, 20 years, married 19 of them, and I was never "unfaithful" to her and I don't think she ever was to me, and I don't think that having an affair - or more - would have solved whatever it was that was troubling Janet these past several years.
But Ally - I don't think there are any formal rules for how a father and a daughter in this kind of relationship should be. And the fact that Ally has declared herself to be my wife and me her husband does not clarify things one bit. Neither does the fact that, to my surprise, I've actually come to
feel
like Ally is my wife and that I am Ally's husband.
But I also have concerns, about Ally, and how much I love her, but also how unfair it would be to her if the only sex she ever had would be with me, a guy who ... a guy who's old enough to be her father.
Even thinking about Ally having sex with someone else - of any age - was heartbreaking. But I also love her enough that I could let go of her long enough, if it seemed like she really needed the experience of ... someone closer to her own age, someone ...
So the whole thing with Hannah brought an entirely new aspect to our relationship. Are we to be exclusive - "faithful" - to each other? Or ...
not?
Like I said, I
do
feel that Ally is my wife. But she's also only 19. Should her total sexual life be limited (except, apparently, for the occasional lesbian experience) to just one man, one
older man
- who happens to be her father? The "father" part of me was having a hard time with that. As a father, I want my daughter to enjoy a variety of sexual experiences (safe) with a variety of partners (all safe and caring and protective of her). But as her declared "husband"... I just didn't know.
This was something she and I needed to talk about.
"Ally, sweetheart, about what happened - about what we did - about what we
all
did - with you and me and Hannah, at her motel ..."
She immediately interrupted me. "Yeah, I was thinking that maybe we should talk about some stuff."
"Good, because I ..."
She cut me off.
"Were you mad at me, for what Hannah and I did at the motel. And are you angry because her and me did stuff at the Regionals last spring and I didn't tell you about it?"
So this was her first concern - that
I
was mad that she did sexual things with a girl?
"No, Sweetheart, not at all. Your body is your own, to do with whatever you want ...," and then I thought to add, responsibly, "just so long as you don't hurt other people ... or yourself."
She bent over and kissed me on the cheek.
"I thought you felt that way - or at least I hoped you feel that way. But thanks for saying it - I guess I just needed to hear it." Then out of the blue she asked me, "Did you ever do stuff with other guys when ... whenever?"
I guess she was curious, and considering what we'd just talked about I could understand her curiosity.
"No, I never have - never did." Not
strictly
true, but that explanation would have to be for another time.
Then she got this sly little smile. "So, Daddy, did you like watching Hannah and me? Did it turn you on, watching us kiss and finger each other and suck each others boobs and pussies 'n' stuff?"
Now it was my turn to put on a sly, sarcastic smile.
"Me? Why would any man like me get turned on watching two good-looking athletic young women kissing and licking each others pussies and asses?" Then I tried for what I hoped was an "offended" took. "What kind of a man do you think I am, anyway?"
Ally punched my arm, which I deserved. We both laughed.
"Yeah, it was really hot watching all the things you two did and especially how you each responded when you did those things."
"Yeah? So what was the hottest thing out of all the stuff Hannah 'n' me did?"
I thought for a moment, but it didn't take long.
"No doubt about it, the hottest was when you and Hannah had your legs spread and you rubbed your pussies together 'til you both came - I think you both came hardest then, and that's what got to me the most, not just watching you do it but seeing you both cum so hard."
... and I couldn't believe I was having this conversation - with anyone, and especially not with my daughter-wife.
"Well, I'm glad you enjoyed our reunion." Then she got that smile again.
"You know, Daddy, doing it that way isn't just limited to girls ...," and I immediately started thinking of the next time when Ally and I could try it "that way."
"But there's something else, Sweetheart, ..."
"Yeah, I know - it's about other people, isn't it?"
Yes, she understood. Apparently events had taken her to the same place as me.
"We've never talked about that, have we, Jim?"
"Jim"
again. I guess we're back into husband-wife mode.
"No, Sweetheart, we never have." I waited to see if she already had some thoughts. She didn't act like there was anything she wanted to say. Or was she waiting - deferring to me, the "more experienced" one in relationship stuff like this? Since it didn't seem like she was going to say anything, I started.
"I'm not sure the best order to say this, so I'll just start with the part about me. Ally, I love what we have with each other. I'll admit it - I'm in love with you, and I love you being my wife, and I'm in love with the idea of you being my wife and me being your husband.
"But also, I know that you're very early in your life, and the idea of you being tied to just me - to just one person ...," and I paused, to see if she would "correct" me on this. I mean, if I didn't know about Hannah ... how many other things were there that I didn't know about?
But Ally didn't say anything or "take the bait" so I went on, trying to finish the thought I'd started.
"So, anyhow, I love you, and I am so very happy with our life the way it is, but if ... well, you know ... " And reading this, you know just what it was that I was afraid to say.
Ally smiled at me, this almost sad smile, and touched my cheek gently with her fingers, and it was the touch of a much older, mature woman.
"Jim, that's so brave, and it must have taken a lot of courage to say ... what you just did. Jim, right now I don't need anyone but you - you're everything to me. But that might change. Like you say, I'm only 19, and things might ... happen ... that I'm not expecting. And I can't imagine ever loving anyone like I'm in love with you, but like you said, things happen ...
"But I worry about you, too. Will you get bored with me some time, or maybe not really bored, but missing someone closer to your age, maybe someone who's had experiences like yours, maybe someone who's had more sexual experience than I have ...," and she smiled. "Although we're doing our best to make sure I catch up, aren't we?"
But then she got serious again. "I mean maybe someone who's gone through what you have - maybe the experience of having a child and worrying about them, or maybe of losing a wife ... Anyhow, what I'm trying to say is ... I don't know what I'm trying to say, but, yeah, I guess maybe we both have to think about it, about sometime maybe wanting something that the other one can't do for us ..."
At that moment I realized that I loved my new wife more than words could ever relate, and that I wanted her as my partner for the rest of whatever life the world will grant me. But also, at the age of 19, she also realizes the challenges the two of us might face in the many years to come.
"I guess we'll just have to remember how much we love each other, and how very careful we'll need to be about each other's feelings."
Ally came over and snuggled into me on the couch.
"I guess that's what we'll have to do, huh, Jim?"
And that's what led to what would become the next major turning point in our life together.
~ ~ ~
Ally and I have become much more comfortable - and much more confident - in our life together - in our relationship as "husband" and "wife." And now, most of the time, I'm Jim.
Part of this is being able to do things as a couple rather than as father and daughter - but without doing it in a way that might look "inappropriate" and which might bring other people's attention to us in not-so-good ways.
Ally and I like to go on "adventures," travel together, see new places and things. The first time was our "road trip" to Lake in the Hills, and that first night in the Pineview Hotel. And you know how that turned out!
But when we do this, we still need to be cautious, discreet. One obvious thing, of course: no PDAs - public displays of affection. That would set off alarm bells in a lot of people. No "familiar" touching or walking too close. We
might
be able to get away with holding hands -
if
we don't stand too close while we're doing it. So we never take the chance.
Other things are more subtle. For example, when we travel, like when we stay at a hotel or lodge, I need to be sure to specify "two beds" rather than the single bed where we'll end up spending most of our nights - and other times. And just generally acting like a father and daughter wanting to ensure each other's privacy - instead of exactly the opposite, which is what we really want!
And, of course, I'm always "Dad," never "Jim."