Perspective: The Interview
I press the audio-record button and I'm impressed by how relaxed Ayelet is this morning, given the topic of conversation. We're in my office and she gets comfortable in the seat. It's our first time meeting. Ayelet shakes off any remaining jitters and puts on a game face.
Her beauty is magnificent. Lime green eyes with thick, wavy black hair. She has a face built for a movie screen and a personality to match. Sitting across from her feels like playing with a baby jaguar, it can be adorable, but the claws are always dangerous.
"We'll start with the basics," I say. "Everything recorded in this room will be transcribed, then the original audio will be destroyed. No names will ever be reported."
She smiles, "Of course. And I'll ruin your life if my name gets associated with this. Just so you know."
"I believe that."
"Do you enjoy having this power to probe my thoughts? You seem like it."
It's the first time a subject has ever attempted to turn the tables. She keeps smiling, which is her way of exerting control.
"I'm interested in what you have to say."
She shrugs. "This is a one-time deal. Make the most of it."
"Where are you from?" I ask. "How old are you?"
"I turned 47 last week. I'm originally from Tel Aviv, Israel. Currently I reside in Beverly Hills."
"Your occupation?"
Ayelet's eyes sparkle and she winks. "I'm a performer. Actress. Pretty much my whole adult life. I've done this and that."
She understates her fame because everyone knows who she is. Ayelet is an international movie star. She's had critically acclaimed roles, but mostly she's famous for playing a superhero over a decade ago. She's still in great shape and she's still a role model to women and girls everywhere.
These days she focuses on dramatic parts for streaming services. The last streaming film she did was number one in the world.
In case you're wondering what I do, I talk to interesting people, then I reveal their secrets to the public -- anonymously -- on my podcast or books. Celebrities, politicians, business people, or the average person walking down the street. If the story is good, I'm there.
"Tell me about your son," I say. "Michael is his name. Let's start there."
"Right to the point."
"Exactly. It's a provocative topic and I want to delve into it while you're energetic."
"While the caffeine is still flowing in my veins," she says.
"Yes, exactly."
Ayelet gives a dramatic pause. "It started, maybe, 8 months ago. Maybe 9 months ago. Actually, let me start with my ex-husband. The story starts there. My ex-husband was once a brilliant artist who couldn't stop the partying lifestyle."
"If I recall from the tabloids, both of you did drugs together."
"That's only partially true. I did dabble in drugs, which I regret. My ex-husband is a persuasive man. There's a side of him that I'll always love, his artistic, caring side. I did drugs with him, we've had threesomes. Nothing I'm proud of. I've always figured that he'd grow out of these habits. Instead they became worse as he got older. I don't know, it was his way of coping with inner demons. I forced him into rehab. I made him change his life. He's always resented me for that. In the end, it just couldn't work between us anymore. I had to end the marriage.
She continues, "Anyway, being around him felt toxic. He became a negative force. My fame and money were fuel for his addiction. He also blamed me for a lot of these problems. So I ended it. I ended it. I called it quits and we split up. Would you like to hear about my son, now?"
"Please, I'm fascinated by how a woman like you could be in this situation."
There's a lingering tension in the room as Ayelet gathers her thoughts. For the story she has, she can take all the time in the world.
"My son is my only child," she says. "Michael was 19 at the time of the divorce. He's 23 right now. He's always been a good kid. The best. Smart, loving, loyal, sometimes hilarious. He's the light of my life. Here's something I've never told anyone; despite my religious upbringing, I've never believed in God until I had my son. The connection is that deep."
"Those are strong words," I say. "I've never heard a woman say that before, about God and motherhood."
"It's true. Those are my feelings. He was an angel until the divorce happened, then he changed. He started acting different. His mood would shift at random moments and he'd have angry outbursts. It hurts to think about.
She continues, "I have this maid, she's the best. About 9 months ago, she found traces of drugs in my son's bedroom. Dust traces of cocaine on the desk and the faint aroma of marijuana in the drawer. It explained the behavior. There was no physical proof because it had already been removed. But the traces of dust is all the proof my maid needed."
"Your maid sounds quite capable."
Ayelet nods. "Yes, I'm very lucky to have her. Anyway, I confronted my son and he denied everything. I should also mention that he had a DUI arrest several months prior. He's part of the LA party scene. He's a socialite and hangs out with other young socialites. He's big on social media. It's an alluring lifestyle, I know. Drugs and alcohol abuse are rampant, sadly."
"Have you tried getting Michael to rehab, just like your ex-husband?"
"Yes, I've tried, and I was partially successful. But there are limits with him. If I push too hard, he'll run off and live with his father. It's a delicate balance that I have to pull."
"That makes sense," I reply.
"Right, so you can see my dilemma. Sadly it's a common thing for rich kids with celebrity parents. The parents are busy, lots of traveling, and the kids have tons of money and they like partying. I'm certain my ex-husband has addiction in his genes and I wonder if that's been passed down to my son."
"Makes sense."
"I confronted Michael after dinner and we had a big fight. I mean, epic disaster. Did I mention the film shoot dilemma?"
"No, you didn't mention that," I reply.
"When the drugs were found in Michael's room, I was getting ready for a 3 month film shoot in Europe, and with travel restrictions, I couldn't come back home. I had to stay in Europe non-stop. Now you can see my problem. The relationship with my son was blowing up and I was preparing to leave. The contracts were signed for the movie and hundreds of cast and crew members were depending on me."
"So you found a solution. A remedy to the situation that allowed you to travel in peace."
Ayelet smiles. "My dear, sweet Ms. Conway overheard the argument I had with Michael in the dining room. Ms. Conway is devoted to me, and I mean truly, madly devoted. She'd do anything for me. I rely on her for many things. I never thought I'd need her for parenting advice, but that's how it happened."
There's a pause and I see the actress in a state of deep reflection. It's a far cry from the defiant personality she displayed when we first met an hour ago. Now her vulnerabilities are coming through.
"Would you like to tell me what happened next?" I ask, being delicate about things.
"In the morning I had breakfast alone. Michael had already left to be with friends. After I finish eating, Ms. Conway comes to me with a dossier she compiled. I mean, it looked like something a spy would make. She handed me a laptop with all sorts of files on it."
Ayelet stops to giggle, putting her head down and putting her hands on her face.
She continues, "There were screenshots of Michael's social media pages, things he liked to do, pictures of his friends, girls he flirted with. There were more pictures of the girls Michael partied with. I assumed he was hooking up with them. This little dossier took a strange turn with screenshots of statistics and articles."
There's yet another shift in the feeling of our conversation. Ayelet remains introspective as she digs deep to reveal this information.
She continues, "Ms. Conway prepared statistics regarding incest, you know, how common it is, things with mothers and sons. Scientific and historical articles, nothing like porn. It was meant to educate me on how different cultures have used these practices throughout history."
"How did you feel seeing that?" I ask.
"I laughed at first. It caught me off guard, so I laughed. It's something Ms. Conway would do. She has awkward social manners. I mean, the woman is like a machine. Very astute, detail oriented, but she lacks that human touch. Ms. Conway is a blunt instrument. That's what makes her charming, to be honest. I love her.
She continues, "When I asked what the dossier was about, Ms. Conway was extremely clear and straightforward. She wanted me to fill the void in my son's life -- sexually speaking. Would you like a brief impression? I remember her words, close to verbatim."
"Of course I'd be interested in a free acting performance," I reply.
Ayelet clears her throat, changes the pitch of her voice. "Mr. Conway said to me,