Women. Can't Live with Them Can't

Editor's note: this fictional work contains scenes of completely fictional incest or fictional incest content.

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Gordon, Amy, daughter Lulu

Fred, Tina, and daughter Liz

Liz and Lulu, Tom, Paula and Josephine

Tony, ( Bear ), and Linda, daughter Lyn

"Can I have one of those please?" Asked Jo, we all called her Jo, not Josephine. She's my daughter Lulu and her partner Liz's third child, so she's always called me gramps, or grumpy if she wants to get a rise out of me.

"Sure, why are you asking tonight? You don't normally." I replied.

"Well..... I think it's time to tell me, you always promised to when I got to be 21, I'm 22 now and..... you promised."

I took a sip of my drink, more to let her think that I had to think about her request, but I had been thinking about this for as long as she had been alive, I knew that this day would come, someday....

"Okay, here's the deal, tomorrow you and me will sit down together and talk, I've been dreading this day, more than you can imagine, but I promised you the truth.

But I want you to have just one more night to think if you're sure that you want to know everything, some of it isn't...... nice.

I've talked to your mum's and they said it's okay." Oh, she downed her drink in one, what a waste of good Scotch I thought, came over and kissed my cheek and left telling me over her shoulder it was exactly what she wanted, see me in the morning.

The morning came much too soon, for me at least, Jo was keen, I knew she would be. We sat in the conservatory, it was light, warm in the early spring sun and out of the way.

"I know that I told you I would tell you the whole story, but I can't, but before you have a go at me hear me out.

I knew this would be hard for me and you and your brother and sister if you tell them, they have shown no interest in hearing all about this stuff, so..... so I've been writing it down for the last couple of years, I've done my best to tell you everything that happened, it might not be all in the right order, somethings get mixed up in the time that has passed, but I don't think I've left out anything that is important.

I've used the terminology that fitted it, so it might shock you in how it's written."

I passed a sheaf of papers to her.

"I might have to go make drinks, but I won't go far, I'd like you to read it all before you ask questions, is that okay?"

I could see the hesitation, this was going to be a big deal, for her and everyone else involved, but I feared for...... what did I fear for most? Oh, it is what it is, and now it's going to either be all right, or everything is going to pot.

Jo nodded, sat on the sofa and started to read.

I sat and watched.

I found my wife cheating with my simple minded Brother in Law Toni, everyone called him Bear, showing me what was happening at his weekend BBQ in his very large completely private home and garden, we were on a video call I just happened to be recording as I was setting up for working from home for the first time. I needed to cover my back as some of the 'Management' weren't beyond dropping us lower level plebs in it right over our heads.

This was the early days of video calls, the technology was not as good as it is today, so the call might drop out completely, stutter and freeze for a few seconds, or it might not connect at all.

This day it worked first time, it was a bit jumpy but quite viewable, he loved to show off his latest gizmo, or toy as we called them, so he was walking around the grounds, showing off, I could see groups of people drinking and chatting and not surprisingly some having sex outside on the lawn, Bear was what's called a pornographer, he made porn, he started taking photographs and, the clever man saw that the way forward was in films, he was now at this time, one of the top providers of sex films and the like.

Anyway while he was giving me the guided tour someone asked him a question and he turned to answer, it was then I saw my darling wife of 23 years having sex with a man who was riding her like she was a sex toy, it could have been a scene in one of Bears films, maybe it was going through my mind.

The call dropped out. I sat there in a daze, every emotion went on in my head.

I had been left alone this weekend as Amy had gone to see her mother who she had told me was unwell. She used to go on her own fairly regularly, but now I'm thinking that maybe she's been going to have sex with her lover, or is she in any of those films that Bear made?

Lulu had a load of friends around for a BBQ, we had them all the time, it was our house that it seemed that the local kids came and hung out at.

Lu's best friend was Liz, she lived next door, Fred and Tina had been there when we moved in, the girls had been best friends from the day they met, it was when they were 12, or 13 that Fred left Tina, and a year or so later Liz was staying at ours more nights than at home.

We talked with Tina and she said she would be happy if we were, I thought that as she had a new boyfriend who seemed to spend a lot of time in her house it just let her have more fun.

And then we found out that said boyfriend was trying to get Liz to be more than just friends if you know what I mean. She moved in permanently. The boyfriend left that day when I went around and explained to Tina what was going on.

This weekend was supposed to be just a fun weekend, but with my new insight into my 'loving' wife, it wasn't turning out to be much fun for me. The girls were 20, 21 so I had no fear of leaving them to it, and as I sat looking out at them having fun, and the boobs bouncing around, they were young and couldn't be seen from anywhere near, most of the girls were topless, Amy used to get the benefit of me watching, I'd never do anything with them and she knew it and teased me about my lusting after those young bodies. It was all fun as far as I knew.

But now.....

I found my car keys, wallet and jumper, I was mad, I probably drove too quickly, I probably shouldn't have been driving at all, but I found myself halfway to Devon, where Bear had his grand house.

By the time I got there, I had calmed down, it was getting dark as it was still early in the year, I parked in the lane outside his driveway, I didn't want to get blocked in by someone.

I walked in around the back, we'd been here before many times so I knew the way.

I walked around, nobody was taking any notice of me, I saw Amy in the lounge, it looked like she only had a little pair of panties on, her boobs were being played with by the man who she was sat on while talking to the woman beside her, she was naked.

I carried on looking for Bear or Linda.

I found them both sitting at the kitchen table just talking.

They were really surprised to see me, Linda was going to warn Amy but I asked her to stay, I wasn't going to cause any trouble, Amy could do whatever she wanted.

It took a bit of arguing about it but Linda admitted that Amy had taken part in 5 of their films, she wasn't the 'Star', and probably never would be, but yes it was on film.

I got a copy of each. Linda offered herself to me, and after looking at Bear, she made a thing about having sisters at the same time, I think I was pretty rude about how much I would never want either of them in my bed.

I left and went home without seeing Amy, I just left a message for her with Linda, "DO NOT come home this week."

I'm sure if it was today my phone would have been ringing all the way home, but this was before most people had a mobile.

Two days, it took 2 days to get my head back to anything near normal, I moved all and I do mean everything of hers to the empty bedroom, it's the one that she's still using, I had refused to talk to her and she had the good sense not to come back, but she had been talking to the girls every day.

But it had to happen, Saturday lunchtime, she walked in as if nothing had happened, kissed the girls hello and went to do the same with me, all 3 of them were a little shocked when I told her not to touch me again, I didn't know where she'd been and I could only guess WHAT she had been doing but not with who.

When she came back down after finding her stuff not in the main bedroom, it was on to the "it didn't mean anything, it wasn't affecting me in any way, and then it got to the point where it was only sex, there was no love or feelings involved, and then it was oh well I would need her soon, I couldn't do without sex with her for long".

I'm sure she never thought about how I felt!

But it had hurt me more than I wanted it to show.

Life was tense and fraught for the first month, I could see the strain on her face growing, sex? No, I didn't go looking, I suppose I just put my energy into the girls and work, I didn't go out, I had a long look within myself, where and what I wanted in the long term.

Maybe 4 months later Amy went back to Devon, she came back on Monday morning full of life's pleasures, it was obvious that she had gotten herself a lover, I ignored it.

I had decided to put my energy into the house, I was going to finish the top floor, when I had purchased the house it was a wreck, that's how I was able to buy it, that's how I met Amy, she was a van driver for the electrical wholesalers I used, one day she turned up with the materials and... well she didn't mind getting dirty, in more ways than one it turned out, and she helped to make it liveable, that's why we had 3 bedrooms, the master with on suite and the other 2 with a Jack and Jill bathroom, I left the top floor as I ran out of money and Amy was keen to move in and get married, it just wasn't a priority, in fact, it was a great place to put the playroom when Lulu was growing up, it was used as a big sleeping area for sleepovers for years.

All I had to do was fit the bathroom put the skirting boards on, hang the door, build the wardrobes, paint, carpet, curtains and rails and a hundred of little things. Not a lot if you say it quickly.

But I was in no hurry.

After 2 months I agreed to sit down and discuss our relationship and the future, it was hard.

I can't say I didn't love her, 20 odd years is a long time and you don't just stop, you might, no you probably will want to kill, but in the back of your mind it's the love you had in your heart, so we talked.

Amy brought out all the old memories, all the good times we had shared, I countered with me seeing her in a position that only I should have been in with her, how much it hurt me just thinking about all the men that were probably stroking off to her even as we sat there then, I saw her face, how she hadn't even thought about any of that, and I asked how did she think I felt when blokes that I knew asked what it was like to be sleeping with a porn star. They hadn't, but she didn't need to know that.

She didn't beg, but it was close, she didn't want me to divorce her, I'd given a lot of thought to that question, I told her that I had no intention of divorcing her, if she wanted to divorce me, go ahead, do it.

But I would not be sleeping with her again. She had the option to stay or go.

She stayed. We were civil to each other, most of the time, sometimes I might have a moment of weakness and vent my spleen, as the saying goes.

Saying that I wasn't sleeping with her was easy, but not sleeping with her wasn't, she went out of her way to tempt me, dressing in a sexy way, we had been together for a long time, she knew what turned me on, and she used it every chance she got, it didn't happen for another month or so, I'd been to the pub with some friends, had just a bit too much to drink, I was 'over refreshed' as a friend says. I went to bed, on my own, I woke up with Amy nude and sucking me, I plead guilty to having sex with her, there wasn't any love involved, it was just sex, from what I remember, good sex, And she came back for seconds later.

I felt bad, but she sure took a lot of pressure out of me.

I walked around the following morning with a headache and guilty conscience, Amy walked around with a big smile.

When I moved into my new bedroom months later, I told Amy that if she ever came into it uninvited, I would throw her out, She must have believed me as she has never tried as far as I know.

Life had gone on, the girls had matured into great people, they both got jobs, both in offices, and the house functioned, like all households it had its ups and downs, but I felt as happy as I thought I could be.

It was Valentine's Night, I took my girls and Amy to dinner at a local restaurant, Mary, Liz's mother joined us as well, feeling a bit odd having so many ladies on my table it turned out to be a great night, we all had a laugh.

We had a taxi to take us home, the drink had flowed, and sitting in the lounge in front of the fire, we all shared a nightcap.

Lulu started talking about how she saw the future, it stopped me in my tracks, she told us that she and Liz wanted to get married, or that's what I heard.

I was floored, that was the last thing I expected, I'd seen they were best friends, had been for years, but I'd seen that line of boys going through the house, some had stayed the night, not many but a few had and they had certainly stayed out nights as well, I knew because I lay awake worrying about them.

Tina and Amy both smiled I noticed, I was happy, honestly.

I wasn't included in much of the conversation after that, it might have been my foggy mind, but mostly because I was just a man.

I'm a gentleman, I walked Tina home as I did every time she came to mine, it might have only been next door but I wanted to see her safely home, for probably the third time, she kissed me on her doorstep, a proper kiss, not a cheek brush, the door was opened by Tina's housemate, she had rented out a room to a college lecturer for as long as I could remember, that was when my lightbulb moment came.

If Liz was a lesbian, had she got it from her mum? It all made sense to me that night.

I don't mean she caught an illness, but found loving with another woman that much easier.

I must have had more to drink than I thought I had had.

I let Amy take me to her bed as I went upstairs, we fucked, several times, Amy was good at giving blowjobs, I'd noticed that the few times that she did me, she never used to like doing it, but she was bloody good at it now.

Which pisses me off.

I woke with a sore head, make that both my heads were sore, I don't know what we did, but she had a big silly grin as I pulled her away from trying to suck my tongue out of my cock.

As you might be able to guess I wasn't expecting to have much of an input to the wedding, it wasn't a surprise to me.

They all planned and plotted, my job was to nod my head and pay for it.

It wasn't a lavish affair, mostly close friends, but I felt it went off as good as I had hoped, they went off on honeymoon, just a couple of days by the coast.

Life settled down again, it was the same but different, now that the girls were officially married it just seemed more relaxed, more settled down.

I dated a bit, nothing seemed right with my choices of women, oh I had sex, sometimes, but more likely not.

Amy went away to Devon lots of times, usually during the week and then reappeared to spend the weekend at home, I've always believed that she was being filmed, or at least having sex, but never asked.

I didn't want to know.

A whole year passed, my life was pretty mundane, I worked, I didn't have any hobbies or feel the need to go or do anything, I didn't want to go on holiday, I spent my time here at home, in the garden, sometimes the pub, but not that much.

Christmas came, we spent it together, Tina joined as well, it was okay, I've never been a great Christmas person, but I try not to upset anyone who loves it.

Boxing Day was the usual, cold meats and a help yourself all day feast.

It was as we sat watching some stupid television show, Lu stopped the show during the advert break and told us that they had some important news to tell us.

Liz and her had decided that it was time for Liz to have a baby.

WOW, that was the farthest thing from my mind.

As you can imagine it was all baby talk that evening, the women were all over the moon and excited.

I asked the obvious question, how was Liz going to get pregnant?

They both had smiles as Liz replied that they had a plan, but it was too soon to tell us. I let it go, they were grown up enough to know their own minds.

I'm sure they had other conversations with Tina and Amy, but they never really talked with me about how it was going, I assumed that they were getting medical help of some sort.

I found out what the plan was on Valentine's Day, once again we all went to a restaurant and had a meal, it wasn't until we got home that as we sat downstairs having a nightcap that I started to feel light headed, and more than a bit horny, I was thinking that it was a night that Amy would have me in her bed.

And then the bomb was dropped, Liz wanted me to... fuck her, she wanted me to impregnate her.

My mind wasn't clear but my body wasn't, we had sex, several times that night and the next morning.

It took me a month to work out that Amy was giving me something that the male porn stars used to keep hard, and whatever it was worked.

I felt terrible, I had had sex with my daughter's partner, wife even, a woman who called me Dad.

All 4 women were saying how glad they were that I had been able to help, I felt used in a way I never thought possible.

It was later in the month that Liz came to my bed again, I tried to say no, but Lu and Liz begged me to, they wanted the sperm from someone they knew, not a stranger, not by as they put it, a Turkey baster, 4 nights a month, Liz and I had sex, it wasn't the loving sex you have with the one you love, but it wasn't just fucking, it took 7 months for my seed to reach its destination, 9 months later Tom was born.

It devastated all of us when after just a couple of days he died, cot death, it absolutely destroyed us at the time, but it was Liz who pulled us all together, and it was only 3 months before she came to my bed again, I didn't want to, but I just couldn't deny her at the same time, it took another 6 months before Paula was set, and then 3 months after she was born we were trying for you, that took another year.

Somewhere along the way Kim and I started to have sex, it wasn't lovemaking, but it was easier to have her at home than having to go through the process of finding and dating someone who I didn't know, with the chance of striking out after a few dates, finding that they weren't good in bed, or that they had other hang ups.

It was too easy. Kim was not the woman that I had married anymore, she was and is a sexual being, but now she's not afraid of asking or even demanding that we do this or that, she's never said no to me after I found her out, she still declares that she loves me, and excepts that I don't love her anymore, not in the way that I used to.

It was Kim who helped me into bed with Tina, you and Paula were having one of those nights, it was both of you teething, I had had a splitting headache and Kim suggested that I should go next door and sleep in Tina's spare bedroom.

Tina came up with a pill for my head and an ice pack to put on my head as I lay in the dark.

Except it wasn't a headache pill, it was one of Kim's pills, half an hour later my headache had gone, but I was left with nothing but a very big hard on.

I was thinking that it was going to be a long night and that work would suffer in the morning when Tina came back in.

"Kim told me you would need my help, she said to give you half an hour, times up."

She said that as she dropped her robe on the floor.

She helped me most of the night, those pills aren't what the doctor gives a man, they do more than those do.