Monday evening, after dinner, at our house:
"Honey, we need to talk."
Are there worse words for a husband to hear? Can't be many. My first thought: what have I screwed up recently? I mean, seriously screwed up. All husbands screw up all the time, but it usually takes a fairly serious screw up for the dreaded words to come out. Anyway:
"Ok, dear, now?"
"Yes, let's sit down." We sat on the love seat in our den, a usually cozy little room that we, usually, enjoyed together.
"I've been thinking..."
"Let me interrupt you. Before you start, would you like some wine?"
"Oh, thanks, that would be great." My wife does like her wine, so I brought her a full glass along with the large bottle that she had opened earlier at dinner. From looking at the bottle, the glassful was not her first of the evening.
"So?"
"Ok, I've been thinking, with the boys gone now and, you know, us not getting any younger, I'm thinking I would like to add some, uh, you know, some adventure to my life."
"Honey, that's great. Actually, I've been thinking the same thing. We're empty nesters now and we can have lots of new adventures together. I've been thinking maybe scuba diving lessons or a cruise to Antarctica or..."
"Waitβno. I've been thinking about new adventures for ME, not scuba diving or Antarctica. You and the boys have had adventures--your mountain climbing and skiing trips and stuff. Now I think it's time for me to have some adventures." She was referring to several adventurous trips our twin boys and I had enjoyed together. Rob and Ron are now 20, both juniors in college. Their first two years in college they attended our local community college and lived at home. Now they have departed home and will finish college at our state university, about a three hour drive from here. While they were in high school and community college, they and I loved to go skiing and climbing. Julie, my wife, was never interested in that kind of adventure so she never joined us. Not that she didn't stay in good shape. All of us worked out fairly seriously, the three of us guys for skiing and climbing and Julie for general fitness. After 22 years of marriage, she was still as gorgeous, at least to me, as she was when we met in college.
I sat there looking at her. "What kind of adventure do you have in mind, Julie, that will be just for you?"
"Well, please don't take this the wrong way, but I've been thinking about dating. I haven't been on a date in more than 20 years. I know you and I go out on date nights, and I really enjoy them, but they're not the same as going out on a real date. You know, a new person, new places to go, new experiences. You know, adventures."
I sat there stunned. Julie poured herself another glass of wine and gulped down about half of it while I stared at her.
"Uh, do these dates include sex with this new person?"
"Tim, this is not about sex. This is about new experiences, to rejuvenate myself and make me a more interesting person to live with you and love you for the rest of our lives together." That sounded pretty well rehearsed to me. So:
"Uh, so you aren't denying that sex with another man is on the table?"
"Well," stalling while she finishes her wine glass and refills it, "Well, I guess it's possible, but that's not the point. The point is..."
"Julie, the point is that you are telling me you are going to start going on dates with other men and possibly having sex with them, right?"
"Ok, Tim, yes. I guess that's what I'm saying. But the point is I want some adventures in my life."
"Without me?"
"Yes, without you, but only for a little while, and I promise it won't hurt us at all. It will really make us stronger because I will be a more interesting person to you. I'll..."
"Julie, please, no bullshit. Your fucking another man or my fucking another woman does not make us stronger."
"Wait, wait," another half glass of wine went down, "we're talking about me here. This is not about you going out to screw some hussy."
"Wait, wait yourself. How can you say you're going out on dates and not expect me to do the same thing? You know, goose and gander."
"Tim." Then silence while she pours another glass and drinks some more wine. This conversation was obviously not going the way she expected. I decided to add a little more fuel to this fire she was building:
"If we're both going to date, we'll need some ground rules. Like, no dates here at the house. If you're going to fuck some guy, it has to be at a hotel or his house. Neither of us entertains a date here, agreed?"
"Tim, uh, uh..." The wine was beginning to have its effect.
"C'mon, Julie, you have to agree to that, to show some respect for our home."
"Ok, I agree, no dates here. But this whole conversation has gotten off track. I just want a little adventure for me, and you have made this about you too."
"Julie, this has to be about both of us. If you are going to fuck around outside our marriage, then I will too, and frankly, I wonder if we have a marriage left after we start down this path. But listen, it's late and you have had a bit to drink. Let's go to bed and talk some more tomorrow."
"Uh, Tim, uh, well, a guy at work asked me out for tomorrow evening and uh, I, uh, told him I would talk to you tonight and let him know in the morning."
"Wow. So what's his name?"
"Uh, Bob."
"Bob who?"
"That's not important. The..."