David opened the door and greeted Hanna with kisses. He helped her out of her jacket and wondered, "I was a little surprised you wanted another therapy session." He grinned. "After our visit to the bar, I thought you two had now fledged and didn't need any more assistance."
Since Hanna already knew the way, she went ahead, and giggled. "In this relationship, we no longer need assistance, but I was thinking we could invite you again. Next Saturday at our house? Julia will be with her bestie."
"If it's to celebrate your success in therapy, I'd love to be there. Will you have some tea?"
Hanna answered in the affirmative, and by the time David was back with two cups, she was already sitting in her familiar armchair. The two sipped their drink for a while, until Hanna put the cup down and became serious.
"There's something else I'm worried about. It's about our daughter."
"Does Julia have a problem?"
"She's still living with us, after all. Somehow, she senses that Eric and I have, how shall I put it, that we've evolved."
"Of course the children feel something like that, but this can only be good for the family."
"Yes, but not in this way. A twenty-year-old should focus her curiosity on people her own age, not her parents."
"What do you mean?"
"Once, it came over Eric and me in the shower. I think we were pretty loud. That's when I saw Julia's shadow in the hallway, watching us."
"There's nothing to it," David waved off, "surely, she just wanted to go to the bathroom to pee. Kids are allowed to know that their parents make love."
"I understand," Hanna muttered, "but, Julia's hand was up her skirt."
David smiled. "Well, it would have turned me on, too, if I were her."
"That's just it. She's still living with us. By rights, she should have a boyfriend by now, moving around and discovering life. But every time I ask her about it, she thinks the boys at university are all bores, that she'd rather stay at home, that she likes it better with Mom and Dad."
"She probably just needs a little more time to fledge."
Hanna sighed. "Maybe we made a mistake earlier. She was still sleeping in our bed when it was long past appropriate. Since we've been in therapy with you, Julia has changed, too. Lately, she sits on Daddy's lap every night, like she did back then, and chats with him as if she were still a little girl. She slides around on him until Eric... I can see him getting embarrassed."
"So there," David remarked, "maybe she does need a boyfriend."
"She also sneaks around me all the time. The other day, I was trying on a sweater and she was helping me. In the process, she touched my breasts, as a daughter really shouldn't."
"Well, you have a wonderful bosom, Hanna, even your daughter can be envious."
"Julia also has two wonderful breasts, I can always observe that when she is in the shower. No reason to be jealous of mom."
"You watch your daughter in the shower?"
Hanna blushed. "Eh... sometimes the door is open, so I just look." She swallowed blankly. "To be honest, when I see her naked like that, I feel really attracted to her. Those are moments when I wish she would get a boyfriend."
"It excites you to look at your daughter's body?"
"That's the misery of it. And Eric seems to have a problem with it, too."
"Which one?"
"When Julia slides off his lap in the evening, I notice a big bulge in his pants every time." Hanna looked up at the ceiling. "Kind of cute to see the two of them like that... but you can't do that in a family."
"I know she has that tic," David smiled, "even back in the day when I was visiting you guys, Julia would sit on my thighs, always with a photo album, for the longest time. To be honest, my little one had been flirting with her bottom."
Hanna's face brightened. "You, too?" But after a few seconds, her expression darkened again.
"That's not all. Once, I came home early in the afternoon, Julia hadn't heard that I was in the hallway. She was sitting in Eric's study in front of the laptop. Somehow, she had found the video of me lying on the bed with the banana dildo, and her hand was between her thighs."
"Well," David mused, "as you told me, you're into women, too. Maybe Julia took after her mother."
"Do you think she's interested in me that way?"
"Maybe."
"But you can't, she's my daughter..."
"... and grown up," David remarked.
Hanna reflected, "Actually, I suspected a long time ago, that Julia wouldn't mind getting involved with us parents, I mean intimately."
"Any other signs of that?"
"Yes. In her closet, I found a hidden basket with sex toys."
"That's all right," David smirked, "after all, her mom is the proud owner of a banana dildo, too."
"I don't begrudge her the toys," sighed Hanna, "but there were vacation photos of me in a bikini, and of Eric, too. In one picture, he even changes his pants on the beach, you can see everything on him."
She clawed her hands into the armrests.
"You can't do that! David, can you talk to her? We're having a hard time broaching the subject with her after all these years. You could open her eyes in a therapy session, maybe she'll decide to finally go out into life."
"A talk certainly wouldn't hurt," David thought, "it would give Julia clarity, and I'm sure it would give you parents clarity, too. Is she ready for a therapy session?"
"Yes," Hanna confirmed, "I've already talked to her about it, well, not so directly. On the other hand, she's always been devoted to you, David, and she's happy for any opportunity to chat with you."
"Julia can certainly come to a therapy session," David said, "but you know how it is. Family entanglements often come up there, and honesty is paramount. I may also have to bring up things you've been hiding from your daughter."
"You have my blessing, David, we trust you. I'm sure you'll find the right words."
“All right, I'll give you the possible dates. You discuss this with your daughter again, and I'll see if she shows up at my office."
"That's a load off my mind.” Hanna breathed a sigh of relief. "That was really all I wanted to discuss with you."
She was getting ready to stand up, when David held her back. "I think we should deepen the conversation a bit more, after all, it's not just about Julia, but also about Mom and Dad. Are you ready for that?"
As he placed his hands on her knees, she sighed expectantly. "And how..."
David summarized, "Julia slides around on her father's lap in the evening."
"Yeah, practically every one."
"She's a beauty who could get a boyfriend at any time, but somehow it's more exciting for her to feel her daddy's erection on her bottom."
"I can’t blame her."
"Then she helped mom with the sweater and felt her breasts."
"Yes."
"She even finds the video of mom shoving a banana up her pussy."
"Yes."
"Julia could watch girls doing naughty things to each other on her phone at any time. But no, she wants to see her naked mom."
"Yes."
"And you probably leave the bathroom door open, every now and then, when you shower and bend down to grab the soap, so that Julia can not only look at her mom in the video, but in real life."
"How do you know this...? You think my daughter might be interested...?"
"We'll find out when she's in my office. The question of what’s going on with you, is much more important now."
David paused, lifted her legs without asking, and placed her feet on the seat. Hanna knew the ritual and lounged in the armchair. This time, her lace panties were jet black, as were her mid-length stockings. When he had looked around at the world beneath her skirt, he looked over the hem to her face.
"You told me in the previous session that you and Eric saw a video of a girl with the same clothes as Julia, watching her parents making love on the couch."