"Ahhh. Yes. I think I might have said that. But what does she want herself? Do you know?"
"Ummm. Yes sir. Because we talked last night and ...well she said it would be best if I could be there and see, you know, whatever happens..."
"See her fuck and suck."
"Yes sir."
"And why? Why does she want that? Any idea?"
"Yessir."
"Then why?"
"I think she'd feel safer with me there. Plus, she knows that it's like a super turn on for me to see her fucked."
"It is, huh? So you two have done this before?"
"Oh, no sir. I think I misspoke. I just meant in my fantasy it really turns me on."
"I see. So never before?"
"No sir. Never before."
"Then how...how is it that you two ended up at Cafe Noir last ...what night was it?"
"Thursday I think."
"OK. How?"
"Well, it was complicated. I guess cause of me. A friend gave us a recommendation."
"Go on. Tell the whole thing."
"Yes sir. From the beginning? I don't want to waste..."
"Yeah. The beginning. I've got time."
"Yessir." I got excited. "Carolyn and I have been married now for 5 years. She was just 20 when we got married. You gotta understand we are totally in love. We were then. We are now. But there was a problem. Is a problem."
"OK."
"Like. I'm not too proud of it but...her sex drive was always much greater than mine. You know how we always are supposed to think it's the guy who constantly wants sex? I guess it just doesn't work that way for me. Or for her. She's totally gorgeous and I loved making love with her, but it wasn't always intercourse."
"OK."
"I always made sure she came, I mean I tried to anyway. My mouth or my fingers. And she would usually end up jerking me off. We didn't actually fuck all that much though. Sometimes we did, but not too much. And a lot of times she just wanted the vibrator or dildo, rather than my mouth."
"I see. Question."
"Yessir?"
"How many dates or...times seeing her? How many after you first met her till you got to fuck her? Or got her to blow you?"
"Ummm, well. See...she was pretty conservative about those things. Kind of shy and she wasn't like a virgin or anything when we met but still she just... needed some time. Which I totally respected. So I think...," (but actually I didn't have to think; I knew these numbers like the palm of my hand) "...think it was like 9 dates and 3 months till we had intercourse, and 2 more dates over another month till she gave me oral."
Chuckle. "OK." His point was made. He'd danced with her over the course of half and hour and spent another 45 minutes with the 2 of us having drinks. "Go on."
I wiped my brow again.
"Yeah, well, not too much intercourse. At some point I know she got frustrated. Maybe the whole time. But I didn't think so, didn't really know the first couple of years. I thought we were different, but that everything was cool. But then the last couple of years, definitely. I could tell. She got frustrated. And I...I guess I did too. I started looking at some porn. Nothing too crazy, just you know a little cause of the frustration. Then one day I found this cuckold porn site and, I was like, wow. Cause it hit me. I don't know why. Never felt anything like it before. I got sucked in more and more. It was so naughty and exciting."
"Did she know about it?"
"Well, not at the start. I hid it, like most guys would. But then I decided I had to be open and honest about it. Because she was getting more frustrated. And because I love her and hate the idea of not being honest with her. And because I wanted her to be satisfied sexually."
"How did she react?"
"Well, at first she kind of laughed it off. Like it was cute. It became a little fantasy joke when we were in bed. We both kind of liked it. Made it fun. The fantasy of it. Sometimes I'd make up a scenario, sometimes she would."
"OK."
"But after a while I guess it got old for her. She got sick of it. Sick of me talking about it. She didn't want to hear it any more. I'd bring it up once too often and she'd get like really pissed at me, told me to stop. This was like she was maybe 24, maybe a year ago."
"What happened then?"
"So I stopped. Stopped looking at the porn and stopped suggesting things to her. I knew I had to. For her."
"Good boy. But your sex life?"
"Well, in one way it didn't change at all, but in a different way it got worse because we had got used to use cuckold fantasies as a turn on for us both in bed. And obviously we didn't have that any more. I still was eating her pussy, or using the vibrator on her, and she would usually cum. But I think she was getting depressed. And I know I was."
"So you two were stuck?"
"Yes sir. We were. Couldn't really even engage on it or talk about it. It was terrible."
"So." He let out a big breath over the phone. "Now you're here. What changed?"
"Ummmm...well, to be honest, it was her going back to college, her meeting Eileen."
"Eileen? Who is that?"
"Eileen is this girl Carolyn met in her Psych class. This was last year. Eileen is a few years younger than Carolyn but she was already a sophomore when Carolyn started. And anyway the two of them hit it off and started having lunches together after their Psych class. Then sometimes an early or late dinner to break up their studying in the library. And then Eileen's boyfriend Andrew started joining the girls."
"All white kids?"
"Yes sir."
"Go on."
"So as they got closer, the girls I mean, Carolyn would sometimes sleep over in the dorm with Eileen, who had a single room. I was working a zillion hours starting up my law practice, and Carolyn was spending loads of time in the library working. So when it got late she'd skip the commute home and crash with Eileen. Probably like once or twice each week. I missed her like crazy but figured she probably deserved a break from me, of from us, or... well, you know. She even stored some of her undies and a few outfits in Eileen's room, some makeup and toiletries too, so it was easy for her."
"And the boyfriend?"
"Yeah. Andrew. Nice kid too. A Chem major. But that's where things got weird. He had his own dorm room in a different building, but sometimes he would sleep over in Eileen's room. The first few times Carolyn showed up - I mean she'd text or call first of course - but when she showed up and he was there she felt really awkward."
"She figured..."
"Yessir. She figured they might want to make love. So she'd offer to leave, but they would say not to. Almost like they insisted she stay. And the two of them did sleep together, but with, you know, her in some modest nightie and him in teeshirt and boxers. And as far as Carolyn could see they never did...you know... have intercourse or anything, just hugged and kissed a lot. Carolyn said she'd never even seen Andrew touch the girl's boobs."
"Carolyn had her own bed I presume?"
"Oh, yeah. The room was a single for Eileen but I guess the dorm staff never took out the 2nd bed. So Carolyn had her own bed. And they'd sleep in Eileen's bed. But no sex. And Carolyn thinks this is weird but she knows it's not her business, then thinks they're just a couple committed to saving it for their wedding day. You know? Like old-fashioned. So she never says a thing to Eileen about it. They don't discuss it at all. Thing really surprised her though cause she knew Eileen was on the pill from seeing her medicine cabinet."
"OK."
"Then one night Carolyn texts Eileen about staying over, and gets a different answer. Something like 'Sure. Come on over. Andrew will be here. Jamaal will be here too. I'd love for you to meet him.' Carolyn thought maybe Eileen was trying to fix her up or something, even though she knew she had a husband. And..."
"Aah. I see."
"Carolyn says, of course I believe her, that she texted back no. Didn't want to get involved in whatever with some guy. But then Eileen calls her and kind of insists and tells her no way will Jamaal bother her, he's just this cool guy to hang out with. So Carolyn goes. Cause it's innocent and cause she needed more friends on campus."
"All right."
"Yeah. Jamaal turns out to be this kind of cool guy. Intimidated her at first cause he's big. A middle linebacker dude for the football team. Big. Ripped. I guess really good too but I don't know much about football. Quiet when Carolyn met him there. Quiet but friendly. It was just the 2 girls and Jamaal. And they made a little small talk, like Eileen met him in some Bio lab thing and they've been hanging out for about 6 months at that point, and some about the team, some about their majors. The usual. Then Jamaal takes out a pretty big joint and the 3 of them are getting high, something Carolyn would never do on her own. Like the two of us, me and Carolyn, had smoked maybe 4 or 5 times total, always at parties, in the last year. The three of them, they're sitting side by side by side on Eileen's bed. And Carolyn can't figure it out but she's enjoying it, just friendly like. The three of them goofing, giddy. Jamaal opens up and Carolyn realizes he's a pretty funny, down to earth guy. She likes him."
"Then finally Andrew shows up, looking all flushed and excited. Looking happy. Apologized to Jamaal cause he'd had a late Chem lab. Carolyn knew it was weird he apologized to Jamaal and not to Eileen, but at this point she's high and just going with the flow. So then more small talk and a few jokes till Andrew turns to Carolyn and asks her to join him on the 2nd bed. She was surprised but thought it was just cause you couldn't sit all 4 of them on Eileen's little single bed. And it's not like Andrew is trying to seduce Carolyn. He's just helping out."
The phone showed a call in to me on another line. I sent it to voice mail and cleared my throat. I waited for permission to go on but got no real direction. So I just went on.
"Carolyn and Andrew are just sitting there and Jamaal leans over and starts making out with Eileen, and he's got her tit in his hand. Then he's undressing her. Carolyn starts to freak but Andrew has her hand and tells her wait, that she's gotta see it. You gotta understand. Eileen is this pretty hot sophomore girl. Carolyn had seen her in panties and such from the sleepovers, but never saw her getting stripped by a guy. I've seen her by now myself. Different than Carolyn. Taller and dark, but a really nice figure, like C cup boobs. And Jamaal is taking his time stripping her, chatting with her, kissing her tits, playing with her nipples. They're making out. No hurry. Totally in charge. Carolyn had to be sitting there mouth open, I know her, she can't believe it. Doesn't say a word. Andrew has like this weird glow she told me, like a glow or a shine of excitement on his face. And a big goofy grin. Carolyn looks down, sees Andrew's pants are tented, the first time she's aware of him getting hard in Eileen's room."
