"-Do you ever think about jerking another guy off?" Nick said. He figured he might as well say what was on his mind. There was too much bullshit in the world already.
Richie was safe, they'd known each other a long time, but it was still one of those conversations he felt he had to pick his way through and play by ear. Kind of watch where he was stepping. The hell of it was once he had an idea he just had to go with it and see what happened.
There was squat on TV and he thought if you don't ask you'll never know.
Richie didn't say anything but it didn't matter because Nick had been giving it a lot of thought.
"-You know what I mean? Like you'd be in charge. You could do it fast or slow.. You could drive somebody nuts."
"I don't like it slow," Richie said and Nick looked at him with interest.
"Slow's better," he assured him.
Richie glanced over and shook his head before he turned back to the TV.
"I like it fast... Fast as I can."
Nick thought about it, tried to imagine Richie beating off, saw him doing it so fast his hand was a blur.
"I don't know. I like it slow, you know?"
Richie didn't answer but Nick didn't mind. It was a start.
Shark was on TV but Nick's thoughts were miles away. He couldn't remember when he'd first started wondering what it would be like to take another guy in hand. The idea just seemed to come into his head one day. He guessed that maybe a lot of guys thought about it at some time or other. It was just that maybe not so many of them did anything about it.
"So what do you think about when you do it?" he asked next. His mind had given him a picture of Richie and himself giving each other a hand job and an idea like that just wouldn't go away of it's own accord.
Richie sighed and scratched his head. He said, "-Shit, I don't know."
They looked at each other and grinned. Nick didn't think Richie was embarassed, it seemed more like it just wasn't something he was used to talking about.
"-Fucking?" he suggested. "Blow jobs? Britney? Princess Leia?"
"Fucking, I guess," Richie said.
"-You guess? Don't you know?"
"-Princess Leia?"
"Whatever," Nick said. "They're all fair game."
Richie started to laugh and Nick joined him. Laughing about every damn thing was a guy thing, he knew that. If something touched a nerve or things started to look as if they might be getting too serious it was better to laugh it off. It was universal. Make a joke and save face. It was bullshit, though.
A commercial break came on TV and they sat and watched it.
Nick thought things were progressing as well as he could have hoped. It was kind of a touchy subject. Of all the guys he knew he thought Richie was probably the only one who would talk about it openly. As to where it might lead, he thought he still had a ways to go to find that out.
"There's a woman down the street," Richie said then, "I saw her coming out of the store one time, nipples sticking way out here..." He put his hands in front of his chest and extended his fingers to show what he meant. "I could have reached out and pinched them there and then."
"Sucked on them," Nick said, and saw Richie gently shake his head at the memory.
"Unbelieveable."
"See, that's the sort of thing I like," Nick told him. "When you see something you're not expecting, like when you cop a surprise look down the front of a woman's blouse. It pays to keep your eyes open, you know?"
Richie said he couldn't argue with that and when he turned away to look at the TV Nick stole a look at the bulge in his jeans. They were crashed out on the old couch in Richie's living room. It didn't take just a second to glance down.
Just looking at his bulge made him want to put his hand there and feel it. His head was full of ideas about how good it would be just to reach down there and give Richie a friendly squeeze.
"So do you think about her when you stroke?" he asked. "The woman with the nipples?"
"Well, I did that day," Richie said.
"I saw this woman with a kid in a pushchair bend right down to pick up something the kid had dropped. I mean you could see everything," Nick told him. "-Great big pair of tits, just hanging there."
Richie grinned but said nothing and Nick thought he'd take a chance and try to steer the conversation more the way he wanted it to go.
"I saw a stroke film one time, this guy had the biggest cock I ever saw... -I was more interested in his cock than the girl he was fucking."
As soon as it was out of his mouth it felt like the biggest, most revealing statement he'd ever made. You just didn't say things like that to other guys as a rule. There was a sort of line, things you could say and things you couldn't.
It felt as if a lot of things hung on Richie's response. It was like putting his cards on the table and taking a chance.
Richie said, "-Fuck off..." like he didn't believe it or it made him uncomfortable. It was hard to tell which, but at least he grinned when he said it.
"-Seriously," Nick said it, deciding it couldn't hurt any more than what he'd said already. It felt as if he'd put his neck on the line and might as well push on. "I would have beat him off, just for the crack, to see what was it like, you know?"
He thought he couldn't say it much plainer than that. It was hell of a thing to get an idea like he'd had and have it sitting in his mind all the time. Hard to ignore and almost impossible not to keep thinking about once it was there.