"As I said," Desmond replied, "I have nothing against it in principle. I just can't see myself getting involved."
Richard groaned quietly and turned his head away to roll his eyes.
"It's not a question of getting involved," he said. "It's just doing something as maybe a one-off, just because it's a good thing to do at the time."
"'Seemed like a good idea at the time' is a common expression," Desmond retorted.
"So is 'Nothing ventured nothing gained," said his new friend patiently. "The spirit of adventure is what makes people great."
"Some people," Desmond said flatly.
"Anyway," Richard continued. "I'm not trying to persuade you to do anything you don't want to. I'm just pointing out that millions of people have done this and enjoyed it."
It was 10:35 in the hotel bar at the conference the two men were attending. One of the waiters had stood very close to Desmond while refilling his wine glass during dinner and the subject of the man's sexuality had come up. The waiter was tall, well-built and black, with a resentful attitude that came across in spite of his textbook polite manner and his singsong Birmingham accent. So when Desmond had put his hand on the edge of the table and the waiter had rested his trouser package against it, Desmond had had an initial reaction like that of a prim woman to whom physical intimacy was a well-hidden secret. Richard had been quite excited about the homosexual vibrations that had suddenly filled the atmosphere, while Desmond found it troubling. That had been 30 minutes earlier and the dinner had reverted to the combination of formality and enforced jollity that, Richard noted, characterized interaction between middle-aged men thrown together by business.
A deep silence fell, which Desmond found the strength to break.
"It's the... the issue of masculinity," he said. "All men have an innate sense of masculinity, at least I used to think so until the PC, LGBT, F.A.G. crowd became so vocal."
"And you're worried about a potential loss of masculinity," Richard said encouragingly.
"There can only be one masculine presence in a sexual encounter," Desmond said thoughtfully. "It's about unspoken power. That's why we use terms like dominance and submission. When you're in bed with a woman you're in the driving seat, aren't you?"
"Conventionally, probably," Richard granted him.
"Exactly," Desmond said in triumph. "So if two men are... at it, one of them has to surrender his... has to surrender."
"Have you ever read 50 Shades of Grey?" Richard asked.
"Glanced through it," Desmond replied. "My wife gets swept up in all this populist stuff."
"And it's all about this woman who chooses to play this submissive role," Richard went on. "She's an intelligent woman. She's not weak. She has this submissive streak that she decides to indulge."
"And you think a man has this streak too," Desmond objected.
"Of course," Richard asserted.
"Do you have one?" Desmond asked accusingly.
"Sure," Richard replied, trying to remain calm and strong when the conversation had wriggled out of his grasp.
"So you've had sex with a man..." Desmond pursued.
Richard felt himself blushing. "Uh huh," he conceded.
"And you played the feminine role," Desmond probed.
"I did," Richard said breathlessly.
"What, you sucked his dick? Let him suck your nipples? Details, my friend. You didn't let him fuck you?"
"All of those things," Richard said, suddenly feeling vulnerable and exposed. At the same time, he recalled the feeling of being physically vulnerable and exposed which had been so exciting that first time, only six months earlier, when he had been seduced by a much older man in a situation very much like this one.
"It doesn't make you a screaming jessie," Richard said, sitting up in his chair. "It's a conscious decision. It doesn't change who you are."
"I'm sorry," Desmond said. "I didn't mean to upset you. I'm just trying to understand. Perhaps we should go upstairs where it's private." The remark didn't sound like a proposition. Just a sensible move in the circumstances, Richard thought. Things could get embarrassing in public.
"Your room," Desmond said firmly. "Your territory."
Five minutes later the two men were sitting in the semi-comfortable hotel room chairs, flicking glances at each other. Richard saw a stocky, overweight, middle-aged man who was used to being in control. But the description could equally be applied to himself, even the "in control" bit. That's what he should do: stay in control.
"You think a submissive man -- a man who chooses for a period of time to be submissive - is less of a man?" He dangled the question provocatively.
"In Ancient Greece," Desmond said, "it was considered okay for a man to have sex with another man as long as he was the dominant one. It was the other one, the one being dominated, who was less of a man. How do you feel about that?"
"I've got something on my laptop you might find interesting," Richard said. "Let's sit on the settee." They relocated side by side and he put the laptop on the coffee table.
"See, this guy," he explained as the video started. "He's a masculine man isn't he? Could be a footballer or a gym instructor. Tall, solid, fit. Tattoo around his bicep."
"And he's wearing a dress," Desmond observed.
"Precisely," Richard said, quickly trying to find something to be precise about. "He has chosen to play that role and he's in costume."