Friends Can Be Helpful

Friends Can Be Helpful

Sue and Chuck were close friends with Mindy and Bob. The two couples had known each other for almost 25 years. They had met shortly after Chuck and Bob had started work on the same day at Advanced Industries. They had all been married at about the same time and raised their kids together. Now the kids had moved on as expected, and the empty nest syndrome was creeping in.

This weekend, Chuck and Bob decided to go fishing at the local lake and left the girls to themselves. It was a nice lazy day, not too hot, not too cold, so Sue and Mindy were out on the patio drinking a few beers. Actually Mindy was on her third beer, which was two more than normal for her, and she had lapsed into an unusual quiet period.

Everything seemed to be fine, but Sue sensed that Mindy was not totally happy about something.

Sue saw this as a chance to see what Mindy's problem was. She said, "your awfully quiet today Min, do you want to talk about something?"

Mindy was quiet, for a while, and then said, "well I know we have shared a lot of things together over the years, but I haven't really talked about some of my private things like sex."

"You know, when you get married, you might have sex 3 or 4 times a week, but after a while, it slows down, and after the first baby it might drop off to once a week or less.".

Sue looked a little doubtful, because it hadn't for her and Chuck.

Mindy paused and then continued, "After the kids moved out, I kind of wanted comforting a little more often."

Sue said, "Is that what you call it Min, comforting?"

"Well", Mindy said, "you know that I was raised in a rather conservative family, and we didn't use those nasty words like fuck and screw. Old habits are hard to break."

"Boy," Sue said, "those nasty words are more about passion than copulation or intercourse. We should have had this conversation a long time ago."

Sue continued, "I would say that overuse of fuck and screw, do loose some effect though, over time"!

"Well anyway," Mindy said, "when the kids left, we kind of fell into every other week. Frankly it is rather boring now."

"I would think so," Sue said. "Girl, you need to rethink your situation here. Maybe I can make some suggestions, after I think about it".

Chuck and Bob

Chuck and Bob have been experiencing what is known as a slow day at the lake, and since they were only occasional fishermen, they just sat in the same place. The fact that they were tied up under a nice shade tree, and the sun was really hot, might have had something to do with that.

Suddenly Bob said, "Chuck, can I ask you a rather personal question?"

Chuck was puzzled, because after 25 years, he thought they had probably talked about every thing under the sun. "OK, as long as it's not about how big my dick is".

"No, I have seen that and it's nothing special," replied Bob with a grin.

"OK go ahead," said Chuck.

"Here goes," said Bob, "How often do you get laid these days?"

"WHAT!" said Chuck. "What kind of a question is that?"

Bob said, "I am kind of frustrated, because it is just the same old same old these days."

"And what does that mean," said Chuck?

Bob said, "after the kids were born, Mindy seemed to get the idea that sex was a scheduled event. Every Friday night, at about 10:00 we go to bed and get ready for "IT".

"This requires extensive foreplay, which includes removing the P.J's, and then 30 minutes of foreplay except of course, that does not include any foreplay for me."

"The PJ's are the worst part. Then there is the parting of the ways, a quick insertion into the nether regions, getting off ASAP and then sleep."

"Bob, can you just forget the poetic comments, please! I can see that you need some adjustments in the bedroom, but I think I need to get together with my sexual advisor (Sue). Give me a few days, OK".

Bob says, "OK."

Later at home, Sue looks at Chuck and says, "how did things go at the lake today?"

"Well ok," said Chuck, "except for one thing. Bob asked me a really weird question."

"Like what," said Sue? "Out of the blue, Bob asks me how often I get laid these days. "

"What!," says Sue!

"Funny you should say that," said Chuck, "that is exactly what I said. It seems that Bob is a little bored with it all, and would like to improve things a little, and was looking for some ideas."

"Wait a minute," says Sue, "something strange is going on here, because Mindy brought up something similar with me. I wonder if there is trouble in paradise?

"I don't think so," said Chuck, "because Bob seems to want to solve his problem, not get rid of Min."

"Chuck, do you think we can do anything?" "Let's compare what they said, and see where to go from there."

"Ok," said Chuck. "Here is what Bob is unhappy about.".

(1) "Scheduling: Min seems to think sex is a Friday night, at 10 PM event."

(2) "Her attire is P J's."

(3) "Foreplay is long and does not have a "his" side."

(5) "Then, it's wham-bam thank you mam and good night. What they think foreplay is, is anybodys guess."

Sue said, "that sounds about as bad as Mindy. Mins list is similar and for some of the same reasons, blaming "scheduling" issues plus some "passion" issues. Min called the Friday night activities as "

comforting"

, not sex.

You know she is conservative, and probably asks Bob if they could have intercourse tonight, or could you possibly insert you penis tonight." (Sue laughed at the thought, and then thought, you poor soul.) "She would never use the nasty words such as fuck, screw, suck, eat me, and so on. What she misses is the "passion" in the words".

"Ok," said Chuck, "let's see what they need to change."

(A)

(1)) "The time and place. First, ditch the bedroom and 10PM. Nothing is as boring as a schedule.

(2) Finding alternative locations like the living room at night with the shades up and lights out, the bathroom after an erotic bath.

In the back seat of the car ( in the garage if you must) I never got to do it in the car, we have to try that)

Also not at night outside, biting insects you know.

In the morning, noon, or find a night with a full moon and do it in the moon light.

(B)"Introduce correct attire. Some interesting see-through nighties, but not too slutty at the start. After all, showing all you have is a really hard sell at the beginning. That is why the fan dancer has the fan after all.

(C) Select more passionate wording, gradually. Coming in the first night, with "lets fuck" might be over the top to start with. It's funny how much context matters with words. One time its' vagina and the next time it's pussy. One is medically correct and the other is said in passion.

(D). Alternate approaches to the target are another area they must consider. They have probably been doing missionary forever.

(E) There must be some touching going on, in a progressive way, starting at the head and working down. You know how some guys are, pinch the nipples, grab the crotch and then plant the flag.

(F) By the same token she needs to learn how to play pool with the cock and balls, and possibly pre-lube the intruder before touchdown

(G) Do ask questions but not too many from both sides. To many questions indicates you aren't sure, and no questions means you think you know it all. Worst question of all is "was that good for you". If you are paying attention, you would know already.

(H) Cool down period. You do not put the race car away without a cool down, the engine may seize. Vaginas must be be put away properly. (Funny how the word vagina can be a dirty word or a medical word.)

Sue and Chuck looked at their list and said "Wow!"

Sue said,"let's stop for a close personal consultation." "I am sure there are other things," said Chuck, "but I can't think of any right now and I am really horny now." "You silver tongued devil," Sue said. "Oooops I didn't mean it that way but go ahead."

The plan of attack

Later Sue and Chuck sat down to plan how to introduce some ideas to Bob and Mindy.

They decided that they would invite Bob and Mindy on a joint night out and call it their date night.

It would include dinner in a nice place, and a movie at Bob and Sue's place. It would have to be a romantic movie, with some intense tones but not to far out.

Sue and Chuck would be working as examples of cuddling, just to remind Bob and Mindy what they had apparently forgotten. The idea was to establish date night. They might have them over some night for a more erotic flic.

As for Mindy, Sue would go shopping for "night wear" with Mindy in tow, very low key. That would give Sue time to prime Mindy, with some subtle hints, and then Chuck could encourage Bob to try this or that, following Sue's ground work

Chuck could make some more direct suggestions, especially concerning foreplay. Most guys simply do not understand,that the average woman does not like to be grabbed in various places, and then pinned to the mattress.

Another thing Sue and Chuck were going to do, is see how Bob and Mindy had their first sex experiences, to see how they got where they are now. So, Sue and Mindy would go shopping next weekend, and Chuck and Bob are going fishing again.

Saturday - Sue and Mindy

Sue and Mindy went to the mall the next Saturday,to several shops with interesting examples of exotic items. They decided to avoid Victorias Secret, as a little to slutty for Mindys mind and ended up in a place called The Secret Cloister. Try and figure that one out.

As they drove to the mall Sue said, "Mindy I was thinking the other day about what we discussed and thought about my experiences. I guess I have always been adventuresome, so I am having trouble coming up with ideas that you might like. Maybe you can tell me a little about your experience as far as sex is concerned".

Mindy said, "there isn't much to tell, except that I was a virgin up till our wedding night. It's not that I really intended to do that, but I was bashful and never could do it.

There were occasions on a date when the guy would try to feel me up, but it was usually, get their hand under my skirt or between my legs and it just didn't turn me on.

I don't know how I got through college that way but whatever.

On our wedding night, we were both virgins, (what?) but we knew enough to get our clothes off and in the proper position.It was just nature, I guess. We both liked it and had sex three times that night but never again like that.

I will say that even though I was a true virgin, I did not have a lot of pain at the initial entry. (Initial entry- Give me a break) It was not because I had already broken my cherry from masturbation as I seldom did that.

(Side note: 95% of men say they have masturbated and the other 5% lied. Figures for women indicate that 75% of women admit masturbating and the other 25% lied so on the whole women lie more than men about sex.)

From then on it was only once at a time. Thinking about it now, we were never like some who do it multiple times a night. Or so I am told.

"Wait, wait," said Sue, "you only do it one time on any given night?" "Yep" said Min, "after all, there is only one way that I know to do it."

"You have to be kidding," said Sue, "you really are behind the curve. Didn't you ever see movies or something that gave you some other ideas?"

"Yea, but they are so dirty and normal people don't do those things."

"Oh boy," said Sue.

"I have my work cut out for me," she thought.

As the girls looked through the store, Sue knew that she was going to have to start at square one, it was as if Bob and Mindy had never even heard of sex.

To that end, Sue helped Min pick out something that started with the basics. No crotchless panties or cutouts in the bra for the nipples, but something more seductive, promising things to come.

After the girls got back to Mindys, the guys were still out on the lake trying to kill fish.

"Min," Sue said, "can you kind of tell me how things progress, when you do have sex. I know it might be embarrassing,but I am just trying to help like you asked."

"OK" said Min, "we go to bed at 10 Friday night and Bob tries to get me started, by going straight to my tits.

He really likes them I guess, and slobbers all over them for a while. Then rubs my kitty, after he gets my PJs off. That always seems to make him mad! Then, after about 10 minutes he crawls on top and gets off as quick as possible and then goes to sleep.

Sue said, "I don't know how you guys ever had kids"

Min said, "both the kids happened in the first 3 years and I guess hormones kept us going for the first few years".

By this time, Sue had heard all she could take, for the time being!!!,

"MINDY", Sue said, "you need to change the routine, and the first thing is to get rid of the PJ's. I cannot think of anything more discouraging for a guy."

"To have to strip down the little woman, to see what ALL men want to see is crazy. That is what the new night clothes are for if you didn't know. Wives need to be chaste in public and a whore in the bedroom".

"Another thing you need to change, is the vocabulary in the bedroom. The nice words used in medical discussions and in public are so, well, sterile. Words in the bedroom should be more passionate, visceral, descriptive and a little dirty.

If you say, "can we have intercourse tonight," it leaves you a little COLD. The other words like fuck and screw, said in the proper way, gets things going. Just screaming out,"let's fuck baby," is so harsh, but a soft mummering of, "Bob, I would really like to fuck your brains out tonight," might get better results."

"In your case I think you would have to work up to it slowly. All of a sudden, might be to much for Bob to handle and you know how fragile men are. I think I can help you with the dialogue later.

Another thing you are going to need to change, is touching him. Men are centered around their cock. Yes you may call it the cock, the dick, (never the penis), or some ID, that only you and he know, and can be used in public, that signals to both of you, "lets go home and fuck."

Mindy, have you ever heard the term "blow job?"

Mindy, "Yes."

"Have you ever tried it?"

Min: "Oh my god no!"

"Well the cock is the center of a man's mind and to leave it unattended in hand or mouth is an insult!"

"And by the way, you might get familiar with the concept of him "eating" your pussy. It is wonderful and it lets you build up to orgasm without getting exhausted and not getting there".

Meanwhile, back at the ranch ( lake), Chuck and Bob are having a similar discussion. Of course men are much more open about their sex lives. NOT No guy wants to admit, that he is not the world's greatest lover, and provides everything a woman might desire in bed.

Chuck continues, "Bob it sounds to me, like you go to bed with a grudge, because of history,and what you consider foreplay may be anything but."

"I suggest a new approach. If you are ripping off Min's PJ's, grabbing her tits, and then her pussy, before the final assault, then you are getting what you ask for."

"Foreplay, starts before the bedroom,with a nice hug and little kiss on the neck or ear (not the same every time, remember not scripted), or maybe a little pat on the butt. It can also start with a nice warm shower for you and her either alone or together."

Separate is nice, because it allows both of you to consider later prospects, and time to stimulate yourself (her too).

Then the application of pleasant scents to the body. Remember that women are aroused by odor just like us. Ten W forty is not good!

Another thing I should mention, is something that most men absolutely do not know about, and that is the one sex organ that is in view, all of the time. That is her hair.

Believe it or not her hair can tell a host of things that she does not realize.

Have you ever noticed a woman playing with her hair? They may do certain things that are signs to you that she is wanting your attention.

Those include playing with her hair by pulling on her hair, wrapping it around her fingers, brushing it back from her face. She probably does not know that she is doing that.

You cannot see this one time and conclude that she is messaging you, but if it occurs as a habit in you presence along with other signs such as the way she looks at you, maybe.

If she appears to be looking at you and then looks away when she sees you look back, this is another sign that she wants your attention. These signs cannot be a one-time thing but a seemingly random action that is in fact not random, if you observe her over time.

If you watch her, you can see it over time. Frankly, since you have been married 25 years, if you think feel hard, you may remember some of these things you have already seen and paid no attention too.

The hair is a very subtle way to stimulate her to notice your wanting to be close to her.

Brushing her hair away from her face, or around her neck and ears or at the nape of her neck is a way of connecting with her,and establish the feeling of closeness that you desire too.

I will say that if she has just had her hair done and you go messing it up you could be in trouble.

Once in bed, you need to start at the top and work down. Neck, ears, arms, face, hair, nice kisses, chest,

not tits

, then under the arms, under the breasts on the stomach and

then

to the tits.

Another note: Men don't care much what they call something but many women do so it pays to find out find out what she calls the soft things are called with the nipples.

I do not know what else to call the nipples.

What does she prefer to denote the furry thing down low. I prefer to call it the pussy, but some ladies may object. I like the word "pussy" because I like to gently stroke it. and that may be imparted to her very politely.

She will be wondering why you missed the breasts and want to feel you coming back to gently caress the nipples.

Believe it or not some women are too sensitive to touch the nipples until later. She will let you know what she likes so pay attention to the signs.

After addressing the top half, you may want to skip the pussy for the moment and just administer a massage to her legs and thighs, working back up to the pussy.

Do not go straight for the clit or shoving your hand somewhere. All parts of the luscious lips are sensitive. In due time, you may even taste the nectar of the flower she has nestled there. (Am I getting too poetic here.?)

I personally like to refer to the pussy sometimes as the peach due to the shaved pussy which does look a little like a peach. "Should I check the peach tonight dear?"

Like I have mentioned before, fuck, (yes let it out, it is so stimulating and when used correctly), in an unexpected time and place but not to embarrass her. For time immemorial, the clandestine coupling has intensified the moment for the couple.

It would probably be a good idea to try out some of these ideas as separate events. The gentle kiss on the neck at an unexpected time can show particular approaches that are more productive. One of the more erogenous areas of many women is the neck and ears. Go figure.

By the time Sue and Chuck got back from shopping and (fishing) they were both horny as hell and almost fucked themselves to death that night. Notice the implied passion here.

Bob and Mindy on the other hand had a lot to think about!

The next week Sue and Chuck invited Bob and Mindy out for a date night. Sue had to explain that idea to Mindy but everybody agreed. They had an expensive dinner in an expensive restaurant and they retired to Sue and Chucks for a titillating movie. Sorry about the tit reference!

It was a rather mild movie anyway. The lights were on low for the movie and the two couples were seated so that they could see each other without being obvious. They had two large couches to recline on.